Bawa The On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (Recommended way to Navigate around Library) Spiritual Chat 362 ---------- "E-mail Version" ------- About Spiritual Chat 362 "About the "Arrogance of Man", And the "Oneness of God" Date of Chat: November 24, 2006, on Friday Morning, Early, before Jummah Prayer Chat Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for "Your Age" Page 1 of 1 ============================================================== Main Go To: Status Go To: Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 362 -------------------------------------- Available Go To: A Short Overview - to Spiritual Chat 362 ---------------------------- In Process Go To: E-mail Version - of Spiritual Chat 362 ---------------------------------- Available (The Version you are currently reading) Go To: Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 362, with "Outline & Summaries" --------------------------------------------------- Planned Go To: Related Material - for Spiritual Chat 362 ------------------------------ Available ============================================================== Home Page - Spiritual Chats Go To Spiritual Chat 363 Chat 362: E-mail Alert Library Home Page Go To Spiritual Chat 361 Chat 362: Other Stuff ============================================================== A Short Overview - of Spiritual Chat 362 [Note: To read a complete copy of the "Text" of "Spiritual Chat 362" please click on the following: "E-mail Version" of Spiritual Chat 362. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: - In process. Please come back later. Thank you - ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 362 Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be please with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu), dearest loving Sons and Daughters, and brothers and sisters, and all of My Children - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. Here is Page 1 of 1 of an E-mail Version of "Spiritual Chat 362", a beautiful Spiritual Chat between our dearest loving Son Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and our dearest loving Son Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for our age, at the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), for the age of the "Justice of Conscience", where "Who you are?" is now "What is within you", no longer "What is on the outside of you" as most of My Children still mistakenly believe. Bawa. To read a longer Outline & Summary Version of the same Spiritual Chat, that is, of "Spiritual Chat 362", one with an Outline and with an Expanded Summary of some Outline Topics, please click HERE, or above in the "Main Go To", on Go To Outline & Summary Version. Thank you . Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen. Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following "Short Title", "About the "Arrogance of Man", And the "Oneness of God". Bawa. And we have given this Sharing the following "Expanded Title", to better reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the "Feet of God" for your age, which in truth is the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of you, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of you living in this age, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, if the true intention for your life within you, for your soul life, is to again become "One with" God within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state within you, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" each other within you, and as if you are "separate from' the Creation of God within you, all of which is "Just Not True". Expanded Title of Spiritual Chat 362 Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman And Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, on 11-24-06 "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Always Remember To Reverse This Process, That Has Now Become Your Life of Arrogance, Karma, Illusion, And of Mind And Desire, Of No Longer Knowing To "Seek Yourself" Within Yourself, Although God Exists Within Man, By Using Each Opportunity To Stop Living The Lie Of Yourself, And To Start Living The Truth Of Yourself, By Affirming The "Presence Of God" Within You And The "Intention Of God" Within You And The "Story Of God" Within You, Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, As This Child Has Learned To Do, By Saying The Word "Bawa", Establishing the "Presence of God" Within You, Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, And Then Handing What God Has Placed Before You On The "Outside" Of You, Before God Within You, After Briefly Reflecting Upon It, And Then "Be Done With It", With The Intention That God Finish What God Has Started Within You, A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, Knowing That "He Will", If "You Do", Without The Slightest Doubt, That Is, Knowing That He Will Most Certainly Step Forward, If You Will Only Step Back, Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, As This Child Has Learned to Do. Amen. Ok?" Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. ============================================================== Related Material - to Spiritual Chat 362 Bawa. For more on these wisdom points, and the great significance of this Spiritual Chat to all of My Children, please click on the "Title" of the Following Material, all of which is also provided as part of the On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (www.Bawa. homestead.com), under the Home Page Names of "Spiritual Chats" (www.Spiritual Chats.homestead.com), and "Spiritual Letters" (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) all of which in truth is from God within all of My Children, to the Children of God for your age, if you like: Spiritual Letters: Spiritual Letter 107 ... Letter To: Ummul Khair Muhaiyaddeen (Rumi Smith), and to All of My Children "The "Extraordinary Process of God" You Must Understand" ----------------------- Nov., 06" (www.SpiritualLetter107VerEM.homestead.com) Spiritual Letter 106 ... Letter To: Muhammad Hussain (John Barnett), and to All of My Children "Stop Acting As My Children, and Start Acting as Me" ---------------------- Nov., 06" (www.SpiritualLetter106VerEM.homestead.com) Spiritual Chats: Spiritual Chat 361 .. "Your Life Is The Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, That Is, "Whatever You Intend Is what You Will Receive" ...................... Nov., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat361.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 360 .. "The Silent Zikr is God Speaking From Within You, Not You Trying To Be Silent On The Outside of You" ........................ Nov., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat360.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 359 .. "The Duty That Is Greater Than God, Is The Duty That You Let God Do Within You, Before You Die To The Flesh ................. Nov., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat359.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 358 .. "Louie Meets The Angel of Death (A.S.)", Or "Life Is The Victory of Wisdom Reasoning Over Fate" ........... Nov., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat358.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 349 .. "How To Establish "The Presence of God" Within You", Or "Who You Are Is What Bawa Is Doing Within You", Or "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Truly Accept The Truth Of "Your" Life, And The Truth Of The "Life Within Your Life", That In Truth "Who You Are" Is "What Is Within You", And "What Is Within You" Is What "Bawa Is Doing" Within God Within You" ............... Oct., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat349.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 347 .. "The Meaning of Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim," Or, "Join In Partnership With God Within You To Remember To Keep Focused At All Times On "What God Is Doing" Within You At All Times, With What Is "Within God" Within You, That Is, If You Will Only Let Him" ...................................... Oct., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat347.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 275 .. "God Has Already Given You Everything, So Your Work Is To Join With God Within You, To Correctly Use What You Already Have, Not Mistakenly Ask For Something More or New" .............................. June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat275.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 274 .. "God Says To You Within You, 'Catch Me If You Can'" .................................. June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat274.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 271 .. "Stop Leading Us To Hell Within You,. Instead, Step Back, Let God Step Forward and Embrace Us Within You" ............... June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat271.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 265 .. "Use God Within You To Get To God Within You,. Not What God Has Discarded Within You, Which In Truth Is The Outside of You" .... June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat265.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 264 .. "Become Like Me. Become Like Me. Become Like Me" ...................................... June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat264.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 247 .. "Learning How to Become Alone, Hungry, and Awake, Before You Set Out To Pray" ........................ Feb., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat247.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 246 .. "Letting God Speak To His Children, Telling You That 'You Too Can Fly, If You Like'" ................Feb., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat246.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 216 .. The True Question of Your Life Is, "What Have You Told God Within You That You Want For Eternity, By The Way That You Are Currently Living Your Life On The "Outside" of You? ..............................Sept., 2005 (www.SpiritualChat216.homestead.com) For More: Go To: Home Page - Spiritual Chats (www.SpiritualChats.homestead.com) (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). ============================================================== E-mail Version - of Spiritual Letter 361 [Note: The part of the following "Text" of this Spiritual Chat that is in "Red", is the part that is included in another section of this Web Page, that is, in "A Short Overview" of Spiritual Chat 362. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Does "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) have any questions, comments, or sharings for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa, please forgive my faults and grant me Your Grace. My Dear Father within me, and God within Him, suggest that speaking of the "arrogance of man" would be a good topic to share tonight. Is this acceptable to you Bawa? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And what does Bawa teach you about the "arrogance of man"? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa teaches me that it is arrogant of man to think that he exists as separate from God and from all the Creations of God. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can worship God or know God's will or do good deeds to become worthy of God's Love and Compassion or to please God or to do God's will. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can judge the heart or intentions of another being or that he can advise another being or that he is somehow "better" or "worse" than another being. Bawa. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can somehow purify himself and become "a better person" or that he can "do good deeds" or become "a good child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him). It is arrogant of man to believe that he can study the scriptures in order to "better understand God and God's Will". Part of Chat in "A Short Overview" - of Spiritual Chat 362 MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. An interesting list of things about the "arrogance of man". Bawa. Can "We" take this list apart and put it back together to see what it reveals? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, let "us" do that. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok. Bawa. To start off let "Us" see what Bawa says is arrogance. For example, in "Chapter 33", "The Ten Evil Sins" (www.SpiritualBook002Chap33.homestead.com) on page 118 in the beautiful book of wisdom, "The Pearl of Wisdom" (www.ThePearlOfWisdom.homestead.com), Bawa teaches us the following about arrogance: "Arrogance is performing false charity and sacrifice in order to gain the admiration of others". Bawa. Now lets look at "your" list. 1. It is arrogant of man to think that he exists as separate from God and from all the Creations of God. Bawa. Now in Bawa's definition of arrogance, man's arrogance is about man acting selfishly, that is, man's arrogance occurs because man is doing things to gain the admiration of others, like acting like he is giving charity, and sacrificing, because he believes this is something people admire, and he wants their admiration, acts which seem to be about his interest in God within him, but which in truth have nothing to do with God within him, and that is the whole point. Bawa. But in "your" definition of arrogance you seem to imply that man's arrogance occurs because he is interested in God, because he believes in God, or is even acknowledging God existence within him, and consciously is trying to challenge God's existence within him by claiming his own existence on the "outside" of himself, as "separate from" God within him. Bawa. Do you agree with this assessment so far? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, that sounds fair. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. But instead of this way of thinking about man's arrogance and God, that is, about the "separation" that has grown within man in his ignorance that is man's arrogance, and about the "Oneness" that God has placed within man that is God, lets take a look at man and God from another perspective. Ok? Bawa. First, Man is of God within him, that is, Man is of "Oneness", and that is the truth of man, but in his ignorance man forgets God, and man becomes "separation", and that is the falsehood of man, that is, man in his ignorance is seduced into believing in his own existence as "separate from" God within him, and as "separate from" the Creation of God "Within God" within him, and gradually man forgets all about God within him and about God's Creation "Within God" within him, by the age of 12. Bawa. And Second, in the process of man growing up on the "outside" of himself and becoming "separation from" on the "outside" of himself, which is the "falsehood of man", man grows within himself for 12 years, or more accurately, man for 12 years allows the world of "separation and differences" to grow within himself, that in his ignorance he now falsely sees as his existence on the "outside" of himself, as "separate from", as "separate from" everything, that is, as if he is "separate from" God within, and as if he is "separate from" the Creation of God "Within God" within Him, all of which is "Just not True". Bawa. Rather than seeing what God originally placed within him as God's existence within him, as God's "One with" within him, rather than seeing the world of "Oneness" that God has already placed within him, which in truth, with Man living as "One with" God within Himself, is "His Oneness", is "His One with", all of which is the "Truth of Man" within Him, if man likes, for the Choice is man's, not God's, because God has already made His Choice, and God Chose "One with" man, and that is why man now exits within God, and why man now exists on the "outside" of God, to now Choose, to now Choose either "One with" or "separation from" God within him, and from the Creation of God "Within God" within him. Amen. Bawa. And finally by the age of 12, by puberty, man is swallowed by, becomes "one with", the world that in his ignorance he has allowed to grow within himself, that is, by the world of "darkness and evil", by the world of "separation and differences", by the world of "separate from", by the "falsehood of man", that he has allowed to grow within himself, not through arrogance but rather in his ignorance and by experience, that is, by living exposed to for 12 years, by being in front of for 12 years, by being literally pulled into for 12 years the world of "darkness and evil", of "separation and differences", of "separate from", by those who came before him. Bawa. That is, by being literally pulled into for 12 years the world of hell, by those who came before you, by those who are already living this "lie of man", this "falsehood of man" as their reality, as their life, both "Within and Without" themselves, and who in maturity have now become arrogant about their ignorance, for example, by being literally pulled into the world of "your destruction" by "Your mother and father". Bawa. A world of hell that has now become your home, My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), the home of you and all of My Children, but a home you must now leave, that you must now transcend, that you must now come to understand, in partnership with God within you, that is, in partnership with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us", and now in partnership with Shaikh Muhammad (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, if you like, before you die to the flesh, or a home you will receive for eternity, but as it really is, as the world of demons, jinns, fairies, and of ghosts, not as you are currently experiencing it, not as your thoughts manifested into a dream that you are now playing with. Bawa. And in this way, man starts to experience and then firmly believe that he exists, as "separate from", not because of arrogance but because that lie, that falsehood about "Who he is", and about "Where he is", and about "What is happening" in his life, has now become his reality, has now become the result of what "We" shared in Spiritual Chat 361, "Your Life is The Ultimate Self-fulfilling Prophesy" (www.SpiritualChat361.homestead.com), that "What you intend is what you will receive". Ok? Bawa. In this way, man has grown "his presence" and "his intention" and "his story" on the illusory "outside" of himself, as a false and illusory alternative to "God' Presence", and "God's Intention" and "God's Story" within him, and he has grown it through his experience of acting this way, that is, by acting as if it is true, that is, by his acting as if he is "separate from" God within him, as if he is "separate from" his brothers and sisters, and as if he is "separate from" the Creation of God that God, all of which is "Just Not True" within him, even though he now sees himself, and the would on the "outside" of him as such, it has now become the lie of him, the falsehood of him, the "Contrast to Him), if you like, so True Understanding of Him can now occur, if he likes, if he will now do just two things. Bawa. That is, first if he will just let the lie of him, let the falsehood of him, leave him, both within him and on the illusory "outside" of him, that is, let it come to an end, let it go out of existence, and second, if he will just let the reality of Him, let the truth of Him, comes forward, come into existence within him, and in this way, and only in this way, let the Understanding of Him occur within Him, as these two pass, like two ships passing in the night, for in truth Understanding only occurs through Contrast, through the Child of Light coming into your heart as the "child of darkness" leaves your heart, producing an Understand that has no Contrast, because God has "No Contrast", and then both will disappear, both the Child of Light and the "child of darkness", and only God and the Understanding of God will remain. Amen. Bawa. And all of this can only start within you, this "Letting the Two Ships" pass in the "Night of you", this letting True Understanding occur within you, when you let it, this letting God finish what God has started within each of My Children, whether you know it or not, and even whether you want it or not, for in truth this truth is your birthright, your true heritage, the true destiny of your soul, all of which God has as placed within you, as His Story, as the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, as the "Oneness" that is God within you, if you like, which in truth is "Your Oneness", if you like. Bawa. That is, as the "Earth of God" within you, as the Creation of God within God within you, within which God has placed "His Seed" within God within you, that is, the "Seed of God", with everything within you just waiting for that "Seed of God" to realize, understand, accept, and join with the Truth of God hidden within it, that it is the "Seed of God" buried within the "Earth of God", and hidden within that is the "Tree of God", which in truth is "God happening" within the Creation of God within you, just waiting to reveal the "Fruit of God" hidden within that, which in truth is "True Man happening" within "God happening" within the Creation of God within God within you. Bawa. All of which in truth is the "Oneness of God and True Man" within God within you, a Story that you have come to this earth world within you, to join with God within the Creation of God within God within you, to tell, if you like. Bawa. And since the "Justice of God" that God has placed with within you, and each of My Children, dictates that "Whatever you intend is what you receive", God in truth is "your slave", God in truth is the "Wish Fulfilling Tree" within you, the Katpaha Virudcham, giving you "Whatever you intend", in this way, with God completing your intention for you, no matter what it is, giving you either a life as "One with" God, or a life as if you are "separate from" God, depending upon what you want, what you intend, what you are intending with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, with each thought, at each moment of the rest of your life. Bawa. And in this way, you currently see Curtis living on the "outside" of you, as if he is "separate from" God within him, as if he is "separate from" his brothers and sisters, and as if he is "separate from" the Creation of God within you, because that is what God is giving you, not because of his arrogance, the arrogance of Curtis, but because that is what you want, as that is what all of My Children still mistakenly want, and if you die to the flesh in this state, then that is what you will get within you for eternity, which is an eternal life within you as "separate from" God within you. Ok? Bawa. My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), could this not better explain Curtis's belief in his existence, that you are experiencing in our life, that is, with Curtis now living as if he is living on the "outside" of himself as "separate from" God within him, as if he is "separate from" his brother and sisters, and as if he is "separate from" God's Creation within him, all of which is "Just Not True", rather then as you propose, that is, because of his arrogance, but rather because that is what he wants. Bawa. And because that is what he wants, that is what he is intending most of the time, and as a result that is what God is now showing him, and as a result that is now all that he is experiencing in his life, that is, in his own life, and in his own actions, and in his own thoughts, all of which has now become his own drama of "I and you", of "mine and yours" on the illusory "outside" of him. Ok? Bawa. So does arrogance come into play in this case, as keeping man from God, and from the reality of himself, or does arrogance really have nothing to do with God, and God's existence within man, and with man's attempt to reach God within him, and to fall into what God is doing within man, to become a truly realized human being, before he dies to the flesh and becomes subject to all of the things lurking behind has arrogance, that are now being nourished each time man manifests his arrogance on the "outside" of himself? Bawa. In this way, is man's arrogance more about how man lives out his life of "separation and differences" in the illusory world that he sees on the "outside" of himself, and with his mistaken idea of "Working for wages to get into heaven", an idea which in truth is just leading him to hell, and is not something that relates to his journey within himself, in partnership with God within him, to find and fall into God within himself, and fall into what is "Within God" within him, and fall into what "God is doing" with what is "Within God" within him, which is revealing God to God within God within him, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within him. Bawa. And in this way, man's arrogance is about the illusory "outside" of himself, and the very real but false "inside" of himself, that he has allowed to grow within himself, in his ignorance, Bawa. And an illusory "outside" of himself that man now refuses to give up, no matier what, in his arrogance about his ignorance, no matter what God tries to show him and teach him, like showing him Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and now showing him His Children, the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of him, and like teaching him the teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and now the teaching of His Children, of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), for Example like this beautiful Spiritual Chat, "Spiritual Chat 362" (www.SpiritualChat362.homestead.com). Bawa. And all of the other beautiful "Spiritual Chats" (www.SpiritualChats.homestead. com) and "Spiritual Letters" (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) that "We" have placed within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and that "We" have placed on the "outside" of you in the "On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library" (www.Bawa.homestead.com). Bawa. An illusory "outside" of himself which now rules over man as the 9 openings of his elemental body, as the co-operative store of the 5 ruhanies or elemental spirits, who as natural enemies have briefly come together for profit, for their profit, not for the profit of man, but a coming together that has absolutely nothing to do with the True inside of man. Bawa. The True inside of man, which is all about God within him, and about what is "Within God" within him, and about what "God is doing" with what is "Within God" within him, which is revealing God to God within God within him, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within him, all of which can only occur within you, and within any of My Children if you join with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us" within you, before you die to the flesh, to let God within you "Cure Himself of you", that is, of the very real but false "inside" of you, which has now grown and come to maturity within you, and that you now see in your ignorance and in your arrogance about your ignorance as the illusory "outside" of you, but which in truth is all within you, and now rules over you. Bawa. All of which is the True inside and purpose of man, and in truth, all of which only has to do with what "God is doing" within you, that is, with what is "Within God" within you, and all of which has absolutely nothing to do with the current life or ways of Curtis and of My Children, as they are now living their lives in the world. Bawa. All of which has absolutely nothing to do with what "you are doing", and any of My Children are doing on the "outside" of you, that is, with what you have allowed to grow and come to maturity within you, and now rules over you, as the world, the body, and your mind, that is, as the "black snake" that swallowed you at the age of 12, as the "four destructive women" that you married at the age of 24, and as the "four false gurus" that you became at the age of 36, all of which now make up 72 of the 73 groups living within you. Ok? Bawa. So man's arrogance has to do with man, and man alone, not with God or man's relationship with God, but rather with man living the lie, living the falsehood of himself, both within himself for eternity, and for a little while more on the illusory "outside" of himself, all of which has now become all that man now truly experiences, even though man may speak about God, and pray to God, and read books about God, because in truth all of this so called "God work" is being done with his arrogance, that is, with his arrogance, karma, & illusion, and mind & desire, and not with God within him, and therefore will not have any effect on his life, either now, at his death, or for eternity within himself, and this is the truth. Bawa. So man continues in his arrogant state of "separation and differences" both within himself for eternity and for a little while on the illusory "outside" of himself, which in truth has become all that man now truly experiences, even though God is within him, and even what is "Within God" is within him, and even though what "God is doing" with what is "Within God' within him, is within him, all of which is just waiting to happen within God within him, if he will only let it happen, if he will only join in partnership with God within him to realize, understand, accept, and join with "His Reality" within him, to let it happen within him, so "his falsehood" can end within him, so through "This Contrast" of his falsehood and "His reality" True Understanding can occur within God within Him, the True Understanding of "Who He is", of "Where He is", and of "What is Happening" in His life. Bawa. And in this way, and only in this way, will your life truly become sucessful in your lifetime, that is, if you join with God within you, to "Let God" have "His Way" with you, all of which before was to join with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us", and all of which now is to join with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, to "Let God" have "His Way" with you, rather than letting "your fate" have "its way" with you, which is what Curtis and My Children are still mistakenly doing. Ok? Bawa. A fate which in truth is taking you and My Children to the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) within you, who in the End, will drag you off kicking and screaming to the "suffering of the grave" within you, where you will meet for the first time the 5 ruhanies or elemental spirits within you, who in truth are behind all of your illusory life on the "outside" of you, and who will eat you in the grave, turning you into them, with you then roaming the earth world within you as a demon, a jinn, a fairy, or a ghost, until Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within you, when as part of your judgment within you, you will take on 105 million rebirths within you, with you ending as a worm in hell within you with only one level of consciousness within you, or feeling, and in this way, with you taking on an eternal life within you as "separate from" God within you. Bawa. And this is true. This is certain. My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), that is, if you and My Children don't become wise, that is, if you don't wise up before it is too late, and the time for "Become Wise Children" is over, and as "fools" you will have given up your true heritage, your true birthright, the true destiny of your soul, for nothing, for a few transitory pleasures and comforts in the dream. What a waste. What a waste. What a waste. Bawa. But you and My Children can still change all of this within you, if you like, for there is still time, there is still a "Last Chance", if you like, because "We" have again given you an alternative to "your arrogance", because "One of you" has correctly done it, "One of you" now truly knows how to do it, and having "Saved Himself" he can also help you "Save Yourself", if you like, and that "One" who did it, before "We" left the world, is "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), if you like. Bawa. But soon he too will be leaving this earth world, like "We" did before him, and then all that is left for you is your arrogance, and the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) within you, and the "suffering of the grave" within you, and Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within you, and 105 million rebirths within you, and in this way, an eternal life within you as "separate from" God within you. Ok? Bawa. So please use this last chance if you like, and come together with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) each day, and build your life around him, like some of you build your life around "Us" when "We" were living with you in the world, and join with him in what he is now doing on the "outside" of you, help him in every way that you can to accomplish what "We" have now given him to do on the "outside" of you. Bawa. Now this is your work, not anything else, and not even whatt "We" may have told you to do when "We" were living with you in the world, because now what "He tells you" takes precedence over everything that "We" told you, and everything that has been said by the 124,000 Heavenly Beings, Prophets, and Lights of God, over and over again, for the last 200 million years, for now "He is the Word" of God for your age, now "He is the Word made flesh" for your age, for now "He is the Door" you must walk through for your age, for now "He is the Straight Path" you must learn to walk, without walking for your age, for now "He is the station of Shariat, Tariqat, Haqiqat, Marifat, and Sufiat for your age, for now "He is your Mosque, your Church, your Temple, your Kovil for your age, for now "He is You, and God within You" for your age. Amen. Bawa. Please know this now, without the slightest doubt, for like the Disciple Paul (peace be upon Him) who tried to continue following Jesus, as "separate from" Jesus, after Jesus (peace be upon Him) left the world, and in this way, ended up "Worshipping Jesus" rather than God, which is now the fault in all of the religions of the world, if you have doubt, that is, if you doubt the truth, that in truth "You and God" are One, then you are "out", which is what you and My Children are still trying to do, by staying as My Children as "separate from" Us, ending up "Worshipping Bawa" rather than God, which is now the fault of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, and instead become "Us" within you and start to "Worship God" within "Us", as our dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) has learned to do. Amen. Bawa. Please know this now, without the slightest doubt, and start to act accordingly, start to do this true "Heart's Work" within you, in partnership with "Us" within you, and in partnership with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) both within you, and for a little while, on the "outside" of you, if you like, that is, start to act as "One with" Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and with God within Him, which in truth is now "Us" within him within you, for now "We" are now "One with" God within him within you, if you like. Bawa. For Example, like the Disciple Barnabus (peace be upon Him), at the time of Jesus in the world, who was known as the "One loved by Jesus", as recorded for you by the Disciple Barnabus (peace be upon Him) in the "Gospel of John" (www.GospelOfJohn.homestead.com), who was the True Disciple of Jesus, as the 13th Disciple of Jesus, as the First and the Last Disciple of Jesus (peace be upon Them), and was told by Jesus (peace be upon Him) to stay in the world for 600 more years after Jesus left the world, and give the love and salams of Jesus (peace be upon Him) to Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) when Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) appeared in the world, which the Disciple Barnabus (peace be upon Him) then did, in the process with the Disciple Barnabus becoming Jesus (peace be upon Him), and starting to worship God within him. Bawa. And this is the truth of Christianity and Islam, to reveal and become Jesus (peace be upon Him) within you, and start to worship God within "You", not stay "separate from" Jesus within you and try to worship Jesus as God within you, but again as "separate from" you, but rather, to start worshipping God within you, having become Jesus within you, and the form of Jesus (peace be upon Him) on the "outside" of you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God, both within you, and for a little while, on the "outside" of you, having become the Qutb of God for your age, as the 6th level of wisdom within the 5 levels of wisdom you, so you can then reveal and become Muhammad (blessing and peace be Him) within you, and again start worshipping God within you, but this time as the Nur Muhammad for your age, as the 7th level of wisdom, as the "Completion of the Straight Path within you, placing this "Way of the Lord" before God within you, allowing Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) to go on Mi'raj within you, establishing True Prayer within you, the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within you. Amen. Bawa. And this is now the truth of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, that is, of the life and teaching of "Us", both within you, and for a little while again, on the "outside" of you, this is now the truth of the life and teaching of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), this is now the truth of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while, on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, for My Children to Stop living as if you are "separate from" Us, both within "Us", which now is Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within "Us", and on the "outside" of you, which is now "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). Bawa. And in this way, to Stop worshipping Bawa as God, but rather to join in partnership with God within you to reveal and become "Us" within "Us", that is, to reveal and become Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) both within you, and for a little while, on the "outside" of you, and Start to worship God within you, if you like. Bawa. For the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within you, and for a little while, for the benefit of your brothers and sisters who have not yet done the same, that is, who have not yet truly accepted "The Gift" that "We" gave to all of My Children, which in truth is everyone living in your age, if you like, when "We" left the world, that is, that "You too can Fly", if you like. Amen. Bawa. What does "Our" dearest loving Son think? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, I understand and agree with that assessment. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. And where this way of viewing man's existence, that is, as based on ignorance and experience not arrogance, really helps "Us", is in the process of reversing it within ourselves. Bawa. That is, once "We" realize that "our current existence" of living as if "we" are "separate from" God is the result of a gradual process of forgetting God, not of arrogance, that is, of falling out of "God's Presence" and "God's intention" and "God's Story" by gradually getting pulled into "our presence" and "our intention" and "our story" because "we" started to experience this, day in and day out, and "we" didn't have the understanding or wisdom to stop this gradual process, then "we" now have the "way out", which is just to use the same process, but now in the reverse order, that is, to spend our day, gradually experiencing again "God's Presence", and "God's Intention" and "God's Story", instead of "our presence" and "our intention" and "our story", day in and day out, trusting in God within us, and in what God is doing with what is "Within God" within us, and in "our" falling into it, as much as we can, and as often as we can, so God can then "Make it So" both within us and on the "outside" of us. Bawa. And your life, and God within you, and what is "Within God" within you, and what "God is doing" with what is "Within God" within you, truly works like this because your life truly is the Ultimate Self-fulfilling Prophesy, and what "You intend does truly create what you receive", because God has created you in this way. Ok? Bawa. All of which is beautifully explained in the last "Spiritual Chat" that "We" sent to you as an E-mail, and published on-line, and sent to all of My Children, which in truth are the Children of God for your age, which in truth is everyone living in your age, if you like, a "Love Letter" from God within all of My Childrer, to all of My Children, as given for your age now through the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), if you like. Bawa. That is, Spiritual Chat 361, "Your Life Is The Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy" (www.SpiritualChat361.homestead.com), which all of My Children should both read, and join with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you, to literally become. Amen. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "we" understand and accept what You are saying. End of ----- Part of Chat in "A Short Overview" ----- MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And the same logic can be applied about the rest of the suggestions you made about arrogance, for example, in an "outside" format, you say, 2. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can worship God a) or know God's will b) or do good deeds to become worthy of God's Love and Compassion c) or to please God d) or to do God's will. 3. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can judge the heart or intentions of another being a) or that he can advise another being b) or that he is somehow "better" or "worse" than another being. 4. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can some how purify himself and become "a better person" a) or that he can "do good deeds" b) or become "a good child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen". 5. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can study the scriptures in order to "better understand God and God's Will". Bawa. But in truth, like the first one just analyzed, none of these results are attributable to arrogance, but rather to the same process of ignorance and experience, which gradually established this belief system or pattern within you, which then becomes a "Self Fulfilling Prophesy", and can be reversed if "We" start to believe in the truth of "Us" rather than the falsehood of our life, that in truth "Man and God" are One, and start to live this truth in everything that we "Say or Do or Write". Bawa. That is, by first saying the word "Bawa", establishing the "Presence of Bawa" within us, causing our mind and desire to sit down as our wisdom stands up, before we "Say or Do or Write" anything, allowing God to be "Presence" before all of the Creation of God within us, and in this way, allowing God to then "Pass Judgment" on all of the Creation God within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state of "separation from", and "we" get an eternal hell within us as "separate from" God within us, because in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, that is what we want. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "we" understand and accept. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. Is this enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, this is enough for tonight. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Bawa. And as always, please join with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us" to share this sharing with them, by remember to always reverse this process of "Forgetting God" and "Falling into many a trap", and of no longer knowing to "Seek yourself" within yourself, although God exists within man, by using each opportunity to stop living the lie of yourself, and to start living the truth of Yourself, by affirming the "Presence of God" and the "Intention of God" and the "Story of God" within you, before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, as this child has learned to do, by saying the word "Bawa" before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, and then handing what God has placed before you on the "outside" of you, before God within you, with the Intention that God finish what God has started within you, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you, knowing that He will, if you do, that is, He will step forward, if you step back. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we will certainly do as You ask and join with You and with God within You, to share this sharing with all of My Children, by remembering to always reverse this process of "Forgetting God" and "Falling into many a trap", and of no longer knowing to "Seek myself" within myself, although God exists within man, by using each opportunity to stop living the lie of myself, and to start living the truth of Myself, by affirming the "Presence of God" and the "Intention of God" and the "Story of God" within me, before I "Say or Do or Write" anything, as this child (Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen) has learned to do, by saying the word "Bawa" before I "Say or Do or Write" anything, and then handing what God has placed before me on the "outside" of me, before God within me, with the Intention that God finish what God has started within me, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within me, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within me, knowing that He will, if I do, that is, He will step forward, if I step back. Amen. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. "We" gave "Our Little Chat" the following Title: "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Remember To Always Reverse This Process Of "Forgetting God" And "Falling Into Many A Trap", And Of No Longer Knowing To "Seek Yourself" Within Yourself, Although God Exists Within Man, By Using Each Opportunity To Stop Living The Lie Of Yourself, And To Start Living The Truth Of Yourself, By Affirming The "Presence Of God" Within You And The "Intention Of God" Within You And The "Story Of God" Within You, Before You "Say Or Do Or Write" Anything, As This Child Has Learned To Do, By Saying The Word "Bawa" Before You "Say Or Do Or Write" Anything, And Then Handing What God Has Placed Before You On The "Outside" Of You, Before God Within You, With The Intention That God Finish What God Has Started Within You, A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, Knowing That He Will, If You Do, That Is, Knowing He Will Step Forward, If You Step Back. Amen. Ok?" MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, let it be in this way for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within "Us", with "Us" happily, and peacefully, and joyfully having let the "us" end. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Amen. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. End of "Page 1 of 1" of "E-mail Version" of - Spiritual Chat 362 - ........................... |
Bawa The On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (Recommended way to Navigate around Library) Spiritual Chat 362 ---------- "E-mail Version" ------- About Spiritual Chat 362 "About the "Arrogance of Man", And the "Oneness of God" Date of Chat: November 24, 2006, on Friday Morning, Early, before Jummah Prayer Chat Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for "Your Age" Page 1 of 1 ============================================================== Main Go To: Status Go To: Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 362 -------------------------------------- Available Go To: A Short Overview - to Spiritual Chat 362 ---------------------------- In Process Go To: E-mail Version - of Spiritual Chat 362 ---------------------------------- Available (The Version you are currently reading) Go To: Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 362, with "Outline & Summaries" --------------------------------------------------- Planned Go To: Related Material - for Spiritual Chat 362 ------------------------------ Available ============================================================== Home Page - Spiritual Chats Go To Spiritual Chat 363 Chat 362: E-mail Alert Library Home Page Go To Spiritual Chat 361 Chat 362: Other Stuff ============================================================== A Short Overview - of Spiritual Chat 362 [Note: To read a complete copy of the "Text" of "Spiritual Chat 362" please click on the following: "E-mail Version" of Spiritual Chat 362. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: - In process. Please come back later. Thank you - ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 362 Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be please with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu), dearest loving Sons and Daughters, and brothers and sisters, and all of My Children - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. Here is Page 1 of 1 of an E-mail Version of "Spiritual Chat 362", a beautiful Spiritual Chat between our dearest loving Son Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and our dearest loving Son Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for our age, at the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), for the age of the "Justice of Conscience", where "Who you are?" is now "What is within you", no longer "What is on the outside of you" as most of My Children still mistakenly believe. Bawa. To read a longer Outline & Summary Version of the same Spiritual Chat, that is, of "Spiritual Chat 362", one with an Outline and with an Expanded Summary of some Outline Topics, please click HERE, or above in the "Main Go To", on Go To Outline & Summary Version. Thank you . Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen. Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following "Short Title", "About the "Arrogance of Man", And the "Oneness of God". Bawa. And we have given this Sharing the following "Expanded Title", to better reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the "Feet of God" for your age, which in truth is the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of you, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of you living in this age, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, if the true intention for your life within you, for your soul life, is to again become "One with" God within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state within you, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" each other within you, and as if you are "separate from' the Creation of God within you, all of which is "Just Not True". Expanded Title of Spiritual Chat 362 Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman And Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, on 11-24-06 "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Always Remember To Reverse This Process, That Has Now Become Your Life of Arrogance, Karma, Illusion, And of Mind And Desire, Of No Longer Knowing To "Seek Yourself" Within Yourself, Although God Exists Within Man, By Using Each Opportunity To Stop Living The Lie Of Yourself, And To Start Living The Truth Of Yourself, By Affirming The "Presence Of God" Within You And The "Intention Of God" Within You And The "Story Of God" Within You, Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, As This Child Has Learned To Do, By Saying The Word "Bawa", Establishing the "Presence of God" Within You, Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, And Then Handing What God Has Placed Before You On The "Outside" Of You, Before God Within You, After Briefly Reflecting Upon It, And Then "Be Done With It", With The Intention That God Finish What God Has Started Within You, A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, Knowing That "He Will", If "You Do", Without The Slightest Doubt, That Is, Knowing That He Will Most Certainly Step Forward, If You Will Only Step Back, Before You "Say or Do or Write" Anything, As This Child Has Learned to Do. Amen. Ok?" Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. ============================================================== Related Material - to Spiritual Chat 362 Bawa. For more on these wisdom points, and the great significance of this Spiritual Chat to all of My Children, please click on the "Title" of the Following Material, all of which is also provided as part of the On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (www.Bawa. homestead.com), under the Home Page Names of "Spiritual Chats" (www.Spiritual Chats.homestead.com), and "Spiritual Letters" (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) all of which in truth is from God within all of My Children, to the Children of God for your age, if you like: Spiritual Letters: Spiritual Letter 107 ... Letter To: Ummul Khair Muhaiyaddeen (Rumi Smith), and to All of My Children "The "Extraordinary Process of God" You Must Understand" ----------------------- Nov., 06" (www.SpiritualLetter107VerEM.homestead.com) Spiritual Letter 106 ... Letter To: Muhammad Hussain (John Barnett), and to All of My Children "Stop Acting As My Children, and Start Acting as Me" ---------------------- Nov., 06" (www.SpiritualLetter106VerEM.homestead.com) Spiritual Chats: Spiritual Chat 361 .. "Your Life Is The Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, That Is, "Whatever You Intend Is what You Will Receive" ...................... Nov., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat361.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 360 .. "The Silent Zikr is God Speaking From Within You, Not You Trying To Be Silent On The Outside of You" ........................ Nov., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat360.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 359 .. "The Duty That Is Greater Than God, Is The Duty That You Let God Do Within You, Before You Die To The Flesh ................. Nov., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat359.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 358 .. "Louie Meets The Angel of Death (A.S.)", Or "Life Is The Victory of Wisdom Reasoning Over Fate" ........... Nov., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat358.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 349 .. "How To Establish "The Presence of God" Within You", Or "Who You Are Is What Bawa Is Doing Within You", Or "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Truly Accept The Truth Of "Your" Life, And The Truth Of The "Life Within Your Life", That In Truth "Who You Are" Is "What Is Within You", And "What Is Within You" Is What "Bawa Is Doing" Within God Within You" ............... Oct., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat349.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 347 .. "The Meaning of Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim," Or, "Join In Partnership With God Within You To Remember To Keep Focused At All Times On "What God Is Doing" Within You At All Times, With What Is "Within God" Within You, That Is, If You Will Only Let Him" ...................................... Oct., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat347.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 275 .. "God Has Already Given You Everything, So Your Work Is To Join With God Within You, To Correctly Use What You Already Have, Not Mistakenly Ask For Something More or New" .............................. June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat275.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 274 .. "God Says To You Within You, 'Catch Me If You Can'" .................................. June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat274.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 271 .. "Stop Leading Us To Hell Within You,. Instead, Step Back, Let God Step Forward and Embrace Us Within You" ............... June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat271.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 265 .. "Use God Within You To Get To God Within You,. Not What God Has Discarded Within You, Which In Truth Is The Outside of You" .... June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat265.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 264 .. "Become Like Me. Become Like Me. Become Like Me" ...................................... June., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat264.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 247 .. "Learning How to Become Alone, Hungry, and Awake, Before You Set Out To Pray" ........................ Feb., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat247.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 246 .. "Letting God Speak To His Children, Telling You That 'You Too Can Fly, If You Like'" ................Feb., 2006 (www.SpiritualChat246.homestead.com) Spiritual Chat 216 .. The True Question of Your Life Is, "What Have You Told God Within You That You Want For Eternity, By The Way That You Are Currently Living Your Life On The "Outside" of You? ..............................Sept., 2005 (www.SpiritualChat216.homestead.com) For More: Go To: Home Page - Spiritual Chats (www.SpiritualChats.homestead.com) (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). ============================================================== E-mail Version - of Spiritual Letter 361 [Note: The part of the following "Text" of this Spiritual Chat that is in "Red", is the part that is included in another section of this Web Page, that is, in "A Short Overview" of Spiritual Chat 362. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Does "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) have any questions, comments, or sharings for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa, please forgive my faults and grant me Your Grace. My Dear Father within me, and God within Him, suggest that speaking of the "arrogance of man" would be a good topic to share tonight. Is this acceptable to you Bawa? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And what does Bawa teach you about the "arrogance of man"? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa teaches me that it is arrogant of man to think that he exists as separate from God and from all the Creations of God. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can worship God or know God's will or do good deeds to become worthy of God's Love and Compassion or to please God or to do God's will. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can judge the heart or intentions of another being or that he can advise another being or that he is somehow "better" or "worse" than another being. Bawa. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can somehow purify himself and become "a better person" or that he can "do good deeds" or become "a good child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him). It is arrogant of man to believe that he can study the scriptures in order to "better understand God and God's Will". Part of Chat in "A Short Overview" - of Spiritual Chat 362 MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. An interesting list of things about the "arrogance of man". Bawa. Can "We" take this list apart and put it back together to see what it reveals? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, let "us" do that. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok. Bawa. To start off let "Us" see what Bawa says is arrogance. For example, in "Chapter 33", "The Ten Evil Sins" (www.SpiritualBook002Chap33.homestead.com) on page 118 in the beautiful book of wisdom, "The Pearl of Wisdom" (www.ThePearlOfWisdom.homestead.com), Bawa teaches us the following about arrogance: "Arrogance is performing false charity and sacrifice in order to gain the admiration of others". Bawa. Now lets look at "your" list. 1. It is arrogant of man to think that he exists as separate from God and from all the Creations of God. Bawa. Now in Bawa's definition of arrogance, man's arrogance is about man acting selfishly, that is, man's arrogance occurs because man is doing things to gain the admiration of others, like acting like he is giving charity, and sacrificing, because he believes this is something people admire, and he wants their admiration, acts which seem to be about his interest in God within him, but which in truth have nothing to do with God within him, and that is the whole point. Bawa. But in "your" definition of arrogance you seem to imply that man's arrogance occurs because he is interested in God, because he believes in God, or is even acknowledging God existence within him, and consciously is trying to challenge God's existence within him by claiming his own existence on the "outside" of himself, as "separate from" God within him. Bawa. Do you agree with this assessment so far? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, that sounds fair. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. But instead of this way of thinking about man's arrogance and God, that is, about the "separation" that has grown within man in his ignorance that is man's arrogance, and about the "Oneness" that God has placed within man that is God, lets take a look at man and God from another perspective. Ok? Bawa. First, Man is of God within him, that is, Man is of "Oneness", and that is the truth of man, but in his ignorance man forgets God, and man becomes "separation", and that is the falsehood of man, that is, man in his ignorance is seduced into believing in his own existence as "separate from" God within him, and as "separate from" the Creation of God "Within God" within him, and gradually man forgets all about God within him and about God's Creation "Within God" within him, by the age of 12. Bawa. And Second, in the process of man growing up on the "outside" of himself and becoming "separation from" on the "outside" of himself, which is the "falsehood of man", man grows within himself for 12 years, or more accurately, man for 12 years allows the world of "separation and differences" to grow within himself, that in his ignorance he now falsely sees as his existence on the "outside" of himself, as "separate from", as "separate from" everything, that is, as if he is "separate from" God within, and as if he is "separate from" the Creation of God "Within God" within Him, all of which is "Just not True". Bawa. Rather than seeing what God originally placed within him as God's existence within him, as God's "One with" within him, rather than seeing the world of "Oneness" that God has already placed within him, which in truth, with Man living as "One with" God within Himself, is "His Oneness", is "His One with", all of which is the "Truth of Man" within Him, if man likes, for the Choice is man's, not God's, because God has already made His Choice, and God Chose "One with" man, and that is why man now exits within God, and why man now exists on the "outside" of God, to now Choose, to now Choose either "One with" or "separation from" God within him, and from the Creation of God "Within God" within him. Amen. Bawa. And finally by the age of 12, by puberty, man is swallowed by, becomes "one with", the world that in his ignorance he has allowed to grow within himself, that is, by the world of "darkness and evil", by the world of "separation and differences", by the world of "separate from", by the "falsehood of man", that he has allowed to grow within himself, not through arrogance but rather in his ignorance and by experience, that is, by living exposed to for 12 years, by being in front of for 12 years, by being literally pulled into for 12 years the world of "darkness and evil", of "separation and differences", of "separate from", by those who came before him. Bawa. That is, by being literally pulled into for 12 years the world of hell, by those who came before you, by those who are already living this "lie of man", this "falsehood of man" as their reality, as their life, both "Within and Without" themselves, and who in maturity have now become arrogant about their ignorance, for example, by being literally pulled into the world of "your destruction" by "Your mother and father". Bawa. A world of hell that has now become your home, My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), the home of you and all of My Children, but a home you must now leave, that you must now transcend, that you must now come to understand, in partnership with God within you, that is, in partnership with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us", and now in partnership with Shaikh Muhammad (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, if you like, before you die to the flesh, or a home you will receive for eternity, but as it really is, as the world of demons, jinns, fairies, and of ghosts, not as you are currently experiencing it, not as your thoughts manifested into a dream that you are now playing with. Bawa. And in this way, man starts to experience and then firmly believe that he exists, as "separate from", not because of arrogance but because that lie, that falsehood about "Who he is", and about "Where he is", and about "What is happening" in his life, has now become his reality, has now become the result of what "We" shared in Spiritual Chat 361, "Your Life is The Ultimate Self-fulfilling Prophesy" (www.SpiritualChat361.homestead.com), that "What you intend is what you will receive". Ok? Bawa. In this way, man has grown "his presence" and "his intention" and "his story" on the illusory "outside" of himself, as a false and illusory alternative to "God' Presence", and "God's Intention" and "God's Story" within him, and he has grown it through his experience of acting this way, that is, by acting as if it is true, that is, by his acting as if he is "separate from" God within him, as if he is "separate from" his brothers and sisters, and as if he is "separate from" the Creation of God that God, all of which is "Just Not True" within him, even though he now sees himself, and the would on the "outside" of him as such, it has now become the lie of him, the falsehood of him, the "Contrast to Him), if you like, so True Understanding of Him can now occur, if he likes, if he will now do just two things. Bawa. That is, first if he will just let the lie of him, let the falsehood of him, leave him, both within him and on the illusory "outside" of him, that is, let it come to an end, let it go out of existence, and second, if he will just let the reality of Him, let the truth of Him, comes forward, come into existence within him, and in this way, and only in this way, let the Understanding of Him occur within Him, as these two pass, like two ships passing in the night, for in truth Understanding only occurs through Contrast, through the Child of Light coming into your heart as the "child of darkness" leaves your heart, producing an Understand that has no Contrast, because God has "No Contrast", and then both will disappear, both the Child of Light and the "child of darkness", and only God and the Understanding of God will remain. Amen. Bawa. And all of this can only start within you, this "Letting the Two Ships" pass in the "Night of you", this letting True Understanding occur within you, when you let it, this letting God finish what God has started within each of My Children, whether you know it or not, and even whether you want it or not, for in truth this truth is your birthright, your true heritage, the true destiny of your soul, all of which God has as placed within you, as His Story, as the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, as the "Oneness" that is God within you, if you like, which in truth is "Your Oneness", if you like. Bawa. That is, as the "Earth of God" within you, as the Creation of God within God within you, within which God has placed "His Seed" within God within you, that is, the "Seed of God", with everything within you just waiting for that "Seed of God" to realize, understand, accept, and join with the Truth of God hidden within it, that it is the "Seed of God" buried within the "Earth of God", and hidden within that is the "Tree of God", which in truth is "God happening" within the Creation of God within you, just waiting to reveal the "Fruit of God" hidden within that, which in truth is "True Man happening" within "God happening" within the Creation of God within God within you. Bawa. All of which in truth is the "Oneness of God and True Man" within God within you, a Story that you have come to this earth world within you, to join with God within the Creation of God within God within you, to tell, if you like. Bawa. And since the "Justice of God" that God has placed with within you, and each of My Children, dictates that "Whatever you intend is what you receive", God in truth is "your slave", God in truth is the "Wish Fulfilling Tree" within you, the Katpaha Virudcham, giving you "Whatever you intend", in this way, with God completing your intention for you, no matter what it is, giving you either a life as "One with" God, or a life as if you are "separate from" God, depending upon what you want, what you intend, what you are intending with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, with each thought, at each moment of the rest of your life. Bawa. And in this way, you currently see Curtis living on the "outside" of you, as if he is "separate from" God within him, as if he is "separate from" his brothers and sisters, and as if he is "separate from" the Creation of God within you, because that is what God is giving you, not because of his arrogance, the arrogance of Curtis, but because that is what you want, as that is what all of My Children still mistakenly want, and if you die to the flesh in this state, then that is what you will get within you for eternity, which is an eternal life within you as "separate from" God within you. Ok? Bawa. My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), could this not better explain Curtis's belief in his existence, that you are experiencing in our life, that is, with Curtis now living as if he is living on the "outside" of himself as "separate from" God within him, as if he is "separate from" his brother and sisters, and as if he is "separate from" God's Creation within him, all of which is "Just Not True", rather then as you propose, that is, because of his arrogance, but rather because that is what he wants. Bawa. And because that is what he wants, that is what he is intending most of the time, and as a result that is what God is now showing him, and as a result that is now all that he is experiencing in his life, that is, in his own life, and in his own actions, and in his own thoughts, all of which has now become his own drama of "I and you", of "mine and yours" on the illusory "outside" of him. Ok? Bawa. So does arrogance come into play in this case, as keeping man from God, and from the reality of himself, or does arrogance really have nothing to do with God, and God's existence within man, and with man's attempt to reach God within him, and to fall into what God is doing within man, to become a truly realized human being, before he dies to the flesh and becomes subject to all of the things lurking behind has arrogance, that are now being nourished each time man manifests his arrogance on the "outside" of himself? Bawa. In this way, is man's arrogance more about how man lives out his life of "separation and differences" in the illusory world that he sees on the "outside" of himself, and with his mistaken idea of "Working for wages to get into heaven", an idea which in truth is just leading him to hell, and is not something that relates to his journey within himself, in partnership with God within him, to find and fall into God within himself, and fall into what is "Within God" within him, and fall into what "God is doing" with what is "Within God" within him, which is revealing God to God within God within him, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within him. Bawa. And in this way, man's arrogance is about the illusory "outside" of himself, and the very real but false "inside" of himself, that he has allowed to grow within himself, in his ignorance, Bawa. And an illusory "outside" of himself that man now refuses to give up, no matier what, in his arrogance about his ignorance, no matter what God tries to show him and teach him, like showing him Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and now showing him His Children, the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) on the "outside" of him, and like teaching him the teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and now the teaching of His Children, of the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), for Example like this beautiful Spiritual Chat, "Spiritual Chat 362" (www.SpiritualChat362.homestead.com). Bawa. And all of the other beautiful "Spiritual Chats" (www.SpiritualChats.homestead. com) and "Spiritual Letters" (www.SpiritualLetters.homestead.com) that "We" have placed within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and that "We" have placed on the "outside" of you in the "On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library" (www.Bawa.homestead.com). Bawa. An illusory "outside" of himself which now rules over man as the 9 openings of his elemental body, as the co-operative store of the 5 ruhanies or elemental spirits, who as natural enemies have briefly come together for profit, for their profit, not for the profit of man, but a coming together that has absolutely nothing to do with the True inside of man. Bawa. The True inside of man, which is all about God within him, and about what is "Within God" within him, and about what "God is doing" with what is "Within God" within him, which is revealing God to God within God within him, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within him, all of which can only occur within you, and within any of My Children if you join with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us" within you, before you die to the flesh, to let God within you "Cure Himself of you", that is, of the very real but false "inside" of you, which has now grown and come to maturity within you, and that you now see in your ignorance and in your arrogance about your ignorance as the illusory "outside" of you, but which in truth is all within you, and now rules over you. Bawa. All of which is the True inside and purpose of man, and in truth, all of which only has to do with what "God is doing" within you, that is, with what is "Within God" within you, and all of which has absolutely nothing to do with the current life or ways of Curtis and of My Children, as they are now living their lives in the world. Bawa. All of which has absolutely nothing to do with what "you are doing", and any of My Children are doing on the "outside" of you, that is, with what you have allowed to grow and come to maturity within you, and now rules over you, as the world, the body, and your mind, that is, as the "black snake" that swallowed you at the age of 12, as the "four destructive women" that you married at the age of 24, and as the "four false gurus" that you became at the age of 36, all of which now make up 72 of the 73 groups living within you. Ok? Bawa. So man's arrogance has to do with man, and man alone, not with God or man's relationship with God, but rather with man living the lie, living the falsehood of himself, both within himself for eternity, and for a little while more on the illusory "outside" of himself, all of which has now become all that man now truly experiences, even though man may speak about God, and pray to God, and read books about God, because in truth all of this so called "God work" is being done with his arrogance, that is, with his arrogance, karma, & illusion, and mind & desire, and not with God within him, and therefore will not have any effect on his life, either now, at his death, or for eternity within himself, and this is the truth. Bawa. So man continues in his arrogant state of "separation and differences" both within himself for eternity and for a little while on the illusory "outside" of himself, which in truth has become all that man now truly experiences, even though God is within him, and even what is "Within God" is within him, and even though what "God is doing" with what is "Within God' within him, is within him, all of which is just waiting to happen within God within him, if he will only let it happen, if he will only join in partnership with God within him to realize, understand, accept, and join with "His Reality" within him, to let it happen within him, so "his falsehood" can end within him, so through "This Contrast" of his falsehood and "His reality" True Understanding can occur within God within Him, the True Understanding of "Who He is", of "Where He is", and of "What is Happening" in His life. Bawa. And in this way, and only in this way, will your life truly become sucessful in your lifetime, that is, if you join with God within you, to "Let God" have "His Way" with you, all of which before was to join with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us", and all of which now is to join with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while on the "outside" of you, to "Let God" have "His Way" with you, rather than letting "your fate" have "its way" with you, which is what Curtis and My Children are still mistakenly doing. Ok? Bawa. A fate which in truth is taking you and My Children to the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) within you, who in the End, will drag you off kicking and screaming to the "suffering of the grave" within you, where you will meet for the first time the 5 ruhanies or elemental spirits within you, who in truth are behind all of your illusory life on the "outside" of you, and who will eat you in the grave, turning you into them, with you then roaming the earth world within you as a demon, a jinn, a fairy, or a ghost, until Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within you, when as part of your judgment within you, you will take on 105 million rebirths within you, with you ending as a worm in hell within you with only one level of consciousness within you, or feeling, and in this way, with you taking on an eternal life within you as "separate from" God within you. Bawa. And this is true. This is certain. My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), that is, if you and My Children don't become wise, that is, if you don't wise up before it is too late, and the time for "Become Wise Children" is over, and as "fools" you will have given up your true heritage, your true birthright, the true destiny of your soul, for nothing, for a few transitory pleasures and comforts in the dream. What a waste. What a waste. What a waste. Bawa. But you and My Children can still change all of this within you, if you like, for there is still time, there is still a "Last Chance", if you like, because "We" have again given you an alternative to "your arrogance", because "One of you" has correctly done it, "One of you" now truly knows how to do it, and having "Saved Himself" he can also help you "Save Yourself", if you like, and that "One" who did it, before "We" left the world, is "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), if you like. Bawa. But soon he too will be leaving this earth world, like "We" did before him, and then all that is left for you is your arrogance, and the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) within you, and the "suffering of the grave" within you, and Qiyamah (the Standing Forth; the Day of Judgment) within you, and 105 million rebirths within you, and in this way, an eternal life within you as "separate from" God within you. Ok? Bawa. So please use this last chance if you like, and come together with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) each day, and build your life around him, like some of you build your life around "Us" when "We" were living with you in the world, and join with him in what he is now doing on the "outside" of you, help him in every way that you can to accomplish what "We" have now given him to do on the "outside" of you. Bawa. Now this is your work, not anything else, and not even whatt "We" may have told you to do when "We" were living with you in the world, because now what "He tells you" takes precedence over everything that "We" told you, and everything that has been said by the 124,000 Heavenly Beings, Prophets, and Lights of God, over and over again, for the last 200 million years, for now "He is the Word" of God for your age, now "He is the Word made flesh" for your age, for now "He is the Door" you must walk through for your age, for now "He is the Straight Path" you must learn to walk, without walking for your age, for now "He is the station of Shariat, Tariqat, Haqiqat, Marifat, and Sufiat for your age, for now "He is your Mosque, your Church, your Temple, your Kovil for your age, for now "He is You, and God within You" for your age. Amen. Bawa. Please know this now, without the slightest doubt, for like the Disciple Paul (peace be upon Him) who tried to continue following Jesus, as "separate from" Jesus, after Jesus (peace be upon Him) left the world, and in this way, ended up "Worshipping Jesus" rather than God, which is now the fault in all of the religions of the world, if you have doubt, that is, if you doubt the truth, that in truth "You and God" are One, then you are "out", which is what you and My Children are still trying to do, by staying as My Children as "separate from" Us, ending up "Worshipping Bawa" rather than God, which is now the fault of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, and instead become "Us" within you and start to "Worship God" within "Us", as our dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) has learned to do. Amen. Bawa. Please know this now, without the slightest doubt, and start to act accordingly, start to do this true "Heart's Work" within you, in partnership with "Us" within you, and in partnership with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) both within you, and for a little while, on the "outside" of you, if you like, that is, start to act as "One with" Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) on the "outside" of you, and with God within Him, which in truth is now "Us" within him within you, for now "We" are now "One with" God within him within you, if you like. Bawa. For Example, like the Disciple Barnabus (peace be upon Him), at the time of Jesus in the world, who was known as the "One loved by Jesus", as recorded for you by the Disciple Barnabus (peace be upon Him) in the "Gospel of John" (www.GospelOfJohn.homestead.com), who was the True Disciple of Jesus, as the 13th Disciple of Jesus, as the First and the Last Disciple of Jesus (peace be upon Them), and was told by Jesus (peace be upon Him) to stay in the world for 600 more years after Jesus left the world, and give the love and salams of Jesus (peace be upon Him) to Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) when Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) appeared in the world, which the Disciple Barnabus (peace be upon Him) then did, in the process with the Disciple Barnabus becoming Jesus (peace be upon Him), and starting to worship God within him. Bawa. And this is the truth of Christianity and Islam, to reveal and become Jesus (peace be upon Him) within you, and start to worship God within "You", not stay "separate from" Jesus within you and try to worship Jesus as God within you, but again as "separate from" you, but rather, to start worshipping God within you, having become Jesus within you, and the form of Jesus (peace be upon Him) on the "outside" of you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God, both within you, and for a little while, on the "outside" of you, having become the Qutb of God for your age, as the 6th level of wisdom within the 5 levels of wisdom you, so you can then reveal and become Muhammad (blessing and peace be Him) within you, and again start worshipping God within you, but this time as the Nur Muhammad for your age, as the 7th level of wisdom, as the "Completion of the Straight Path within you, placing this "Way of the Lord" before God within you, allowing Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) to go on Mi'raj within you, establishing True Prayer within you, the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within you. Amen. Bawa. And this is now the truth of the Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, that is, of the life and teaching of "Us", both within you, and for a little while again, on the "outside" of you, this is now the truth of the life and teaching of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), this is now the truth of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you, and for a little while, on the "outside" of you. Bawa. That is, for My Children to Stop living as if you are "separate from" Us, both within "Us", which now is Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within "Us", and on the "outside" of you, which is now "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). Bawa. And in this way, to Stop worshipping Bawa as God, but rather to join in partnership with God within you to reveal and become "Us" within "Us", that is, to reveal and become Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) both within you, and for a little while, on the "outside" of you, and Start to worship God within you, if you like. Bawa. For the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within you, and for a little while, for the benefit of your brothers and sisters who have not yet done the same, that is, who have not yet truly accepted "The Gift" that "We" gave to all of My Children, which in truth is everyone living in your age, if you like, when "We" left the world, that is, that "You too can Fly", if you like. Amen. Bawa. What does "Our" dearest loving Son think? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, I understand and agree with that assessment. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. And where this way of viewing man's existence, that is, as based on ignorance and experience not arrogance, really helps "Us", is in the process of reversing it within ourselves. Bawa. That is, once "We" realize that "our current existence" of living as if "we" are "separate from" God is the result of a gradual process of forgetting God, not of arrogance, that is, of falling out of "God's Presence" and "God's intention" and "God's Story" by gradually getting pulled into "our presence" and "our intention" and "our story" because "we" started to experience this, day in and day out, and "we" didn't have the understanding or wisdom to stop this gradual process, then "we" now have the "way out", which is just to use the same process, but now in the reverse order, that is, to spend our day, gradually experiencing again "God's Presence", and "God's Intention" and "God's Story", instead of "our presence" and "our intention" and "our story", day in and day out, trusting in God within us, and in what God is doing with what is "Within God" within us, and in "our" falling into it, as much as we can, and as often as we can, so God can then "Make it So" both within us and on the "outside" of us. Bawa. And your life, and God within you, and what is "Within God" within you, and what "God is doing" with what is "Within God" within you, truly works like this because your life truly is the Ultimate Self-fulfilling Prophesy, and what "You intend does truly create what you receive", because God has created you in this way. Ok? Bawa. All of which is beautifully explained in the last "Spiritual Chat" that "We" sent to you as an E-mail, and published on-line, and sent to all of My Children, which in truth are the Children of God for your age, which in truth is everyone living in your age, if you like, a "Love Letter" from God within all of My Childrer, to all of My Children, as given for your age now through the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), if you like. Bawa. That is, Spiritual Chat 361, "Your Life Is The Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy" (www.SpiritualChat361.homestead.com), which all of My Children should both read, and join with Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), both within you and for a little while on the "outside" of you, to literally become. Amen. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "we" understand and accept what You are saying. End of ----- Part of Chat in "A Short Overview" ----- MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. And the same logic can be applied about the rest of the suggestions you made about arrogance, for example, in an "outside" format, you say, 2. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can worship God a) or know God's will b) or do good deeds to become worthy of God's Love and Compassion c) or to please God d) or to do God's will. 3. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can judge the heart or intentions of another being a) or that he can advise another being b) or that he is somehow "better" or "worse" than another being. 4. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can some how purify himself and become "a better person" a) or that he can "do good deeds" b) or become "a good child of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen". 5. It is arrogant of man to believe that he can study the scriptures in order to "better understand God and God's Will". Bawa. But in truth, like the first one just analyzed, none of these results are attributable to arrogance, but rather to the same process of ignorance and experience, which gradually established this belief system or pattern within you, which then becomes a "Self Fulfilling Prophesy", and can be reversed if "We" start to believe in the truth of "Us" rather than the falsehood of our life, that in truth "Man and God" are One, and start to live this truth in everything that we "Say or Do or Write". Bawa. That is, by first saying the word "Bawa", establishing the "Presence of Bawa" within us, causing our mind and desire to sit down as our wisdom stands up, before we "Say or Do or Write" anything, allowing God to be "Presence" before all of the Creation of God within us, and in this way, allowing God to then "Pass Judgment" on all of the Creation God within us, before we die to the flesh in our current state of "separation from", and "we" get an eternal hell within us as "separate from" God within us, because in our ignorance, and in our arrogance about our ignorance, that is what we want. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "we" understand and accept. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. Is this enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, this is enough for tonight. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Bawa. And as always, please join with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us" to share this sharing with them, by remember to always reverse this process of "Forgetting God" and "Falling into many a trap", and of no longer knowing to "Seek yourself" within yourself, although God exists within man, by using each opportunity to stop living the lie of yourself, and to start living the truth of Yourself, by affirming the "Presence of God" and the "Intention of God" and the "Story of God" within you, before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, as this child has learned to do, by saying the word "Bawa" before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, and then handing what God has placed before you on the "outside" of you, before God within you, with the Intention that God finish what God has started within you, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you, knowing that He will, if you do, that is, He will step forward, if you step back. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we will certainly do as You ask and join with You and with God within You, to share this sharing with all of My Children, by remembering to always reverse this process of "Forgetting God" and "Falling into many a trap", and of no longer knowing to "Seek myself" within myself, although God exists within man, by using each opportunity to stop living the lie of myself, and to start living the truth of Myself, by affirming the "Presence of God" and the "Intention of God" and the "Story of God" within me, before I "Say or Do or Write" anything, as this child (Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen) has learned to do, by saying the word "Bawa" before I "Say or Do or Write" anything, and then handing what God has placed before me on the "outside" of me, before God within me, with the Intention that God finish what God has started within me, a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within me, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within me, knowing that He will, if I do, that is, He will step forward, if I step back. Amen. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. "We" gave "Our Little Chat" the following Title: "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Remember To Always Reverse This Process Of "Forgetting God" And "Falling Into Many A Trap", And Of No Longer Knowing To "Seek Yourself" Within Yourself, Although God Exists Within Man, By Using Each Opportunity To Stop Living The Lie Of Yourself, And To Start Living The Truth Of Yourself, By Affirming The "Presence Of God" Within You And The "Intention Of God" Within You And The "Story Of God" Within You, Before You "Say Or Do Or Write" Anything, As This Child Has Learned To Do, By Saying The Word "Bawa" Before You "Say Or Do Or Write" Anything, And Then Handing What God Has Placed Before You On The "Outside" Of You, Before God Within You, With The Intention That God Finish What God Has Started Within You, A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, Knowing That He Will, If You Do, That Is, Knowing He Will Step Forward, If You Step Back. Amen. Ok?" MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, let it be in this way for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within "Us", with "Us" happily, and peacefully, and joyfully having let the "us" end. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Amen. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. End of "Page 1 of 1" of "E-mail Version" of - Spiritual Chat 362 - ........................... |
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